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themostepotenteIs there more to Lucius Malfoy than meets the eye?
Can he be written any other way than a cold and unfeeling bastard?
I think so.
This discussion stemmed from an incident that happened when I made the mistake of posting at a community that 'insisted' Lucius Malfoy be written 'one' way and one way only -- canon.
This was also the case with Narcissa and Draco Malfoy. Presumably his relationship with Snape.
Why is mixing canon and fanon such an evil wrong doing?
Why on EARTH is giving Lucius long hair and a snake cane considered such a horrible thing?
I LIKE Lucius with long hair.
I LIKE the damn snake cane.
I don't give a flying fuck who disagrees.
To say that Lucius is one dimensional and therefore should be written one way is CLOSEMOTHERFUCKINGMINDED.
Oh sure, he's a bastard. And a damn sexy one, but he's still human fercrissakes.
He still bleeds. He still hurts. He's not invincible.
On his relationship with Severus
I think that Lucius and Severus were close once. It is also my belief that Severus once looked up to Lucius. But betrayal had a hand in the mistrust that lingers in its place. There is nothing left to salvage -- or is there? Why does no one write Lucius wrestling with this?
You can't tell me Lucius wasn't hurt by this. You don't get knifed in the back by someone you care about and not have it affect you. I suspect Lucius bottles a lot, but when he's alone, isn't he entitled to grieve the loss of a friendship?
Unfortunately, you get to a point in life where damage is irreparable. Where there is nothing more to say to one another. Where pleasantries are all one can muster. This is where I see Lucius and Severus now.
On his relationship with Narcissa
I'm rather torn on his relationship with Narcissa.
On one hand, I see her as a trophy wife. I see Lucius cheating. I see a very cold and impersonal life arranged long ago. There is no love to speak of.
On the other hand, I see this as being the only relationship that Lucius feels he can actually, oh I don't know, 'let go' at times. That Narcissa is the only person he can trust to an extent. Normally, I wouldn't have thought this possible, but after seeing![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
sharp_tongue's portrayal of Lucius and katbeseroc's portrayal of Narcissa, I've had a change of heart. They've shown me a side of their relationship I haven't seen too often -- loving.
On his relationship with Draco
For the most part, I think he believes Draco is a fuck up. But being that he is his son, there is love. Lucius doesn't show it often or publicly I would imagine.
And I know Lucius is a hardass, but you can't tell me he wouldn't grieve at his only son's passing?
I'm really curious to see what others think. Is it possible to write Lucius with feeling and emotion?
Let's hear what you have to say!
--P
Can he be written any other way than a cold and unfeeling bastard?
I think so.
This discussion stemmed from an incident that happened when I made the mistake of posting at a community that 'insisted' Lucius Malfoy be written 'one' way and one way only -- canon.
This was also the case with Narcissa and Draco Malfoy. Presumably his relationship with Snape.
Why is mixing canon and fanon such an evil wrong doing?
Why on EARTH is giving Lucius long hair and a snake cane considered such a horrible thing?
I LIKE Lucius with long hair.
I LIKE the damn snake cane.
I don't give a flying fuck who disagrees.
To say that Lucius is one dimensional and therefore should be written one way is CLOSEMOTHERFUCKINGMINDED.
Oh sure, he's a bastard. And a damn sexy one, but he's still human fercrissakes.
He still bleeds. He still hurts. He's not invincible.
On his relationship with Severus
I think that Lucius and Severus were close once. It is also my belief that Severus once looked up to Lucius. But betrayal had a hand in the mistrust that lingers in its place. There is nothing left to salvage -- or is there? Why does no one write Lucius wrestling with this?
You can't tell me Lucius wasn't hurt by this. You don't get knifed in the back by someone you care about and not have it affect you. I suspect Lucius bottles a lot, but when he's alone, isn't he entitled to grieve the loss of a friendship?
Unfortunately, you get to a point in life where damage is irreparable. Where there is nothing more to say to one another. Where pleasantries are all one can muster. This is where I see Lucius and Severus now.
On his relationship with Narcissa
I'm rather torn on his relationship with Narcissa.
On one hand, I see her as a trophy wife. I see Lucius cheating. I see a very cold and impersonal life arranged long ago. There is no love to speak of.
On the other hand, I see this as being the only relationship that Lucius feels he can actually, oh I don't know, 'let go' at times. That Narcissa is the only person he can trust to an extent. Normally, I wouldn't have thought this possible, but after seeing
sharp_tongue's portrayal of Lucius and katbeseroc's portrayal of Narcissa, I've had a change of heart. They've shown me a side of their relationship I haven't seen too often -- loving.On his relationship with Draco
For the most part, I think he believes Draco is a fuck up. But being that he is his son, there is love. Lucius doesn't show it often or publicly I would imagine.
And I know Lucius is a hardass, but you can't tell me he wouldn't grieve at his only son's passing?
I'm really curious to see what others think. Is it possible to write Lucius with feeling and emotion?
Let's hear what you have to say!
--P
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Date: 2004-08-10 06:08 pm (UTC)...oh. Never mind.
No, seriously...of course he can/should have feelings. With the possible exception of post-revival Voldemort (and note that I'm not saying Tom Riddle), I don't think there's a single character in the books who can't suffer or love or whatever. The problem comes when you try to get someone who dislikes the character or sees them as utterly one-dimensional (i.e., many readers) to care about the carefully layered humanity you've given that character. I mean, if they see Lucius as little more than an arrogant, cruel, self-serving Nazi, then it's quite likely that they're not going to care about his humanity, even if they acknowledge it on an intellectual level.
Of course, this isn't to say that you have to give a rat's arse about what (some) other people think. God knows I have plenty of friends for whom the idea of Snape falling in love with anyone is completely odious, and it hasn't stopped me. *g*
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Date: 2004-08-11 04:03 pm (UTC)...oh. Never mind.
Or a teddy bear!
Of course, this isn't to say that you have to give a rat's arse about what (some) other people think. God knows I have plenty of friends for whom the idea of Snape falling in love with anyone is completely odious, and it hasn't stopped me. *g*
The nerve, eh?
Enjoyed reading what you had to say, Beth. Thanks for stopping by!