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Keeper of the Superfluous Es! ([personal profile] themostepotente) wrote2005-03-22 06:57 pm

I swear to Goddess, if I live to be 100...

I will never understand how some people think. Has anyone been following the Terri Schiavo case?

For those of you that haven't the slightest clue as to what I'm talking about, here's a brief synopsis.

Terri Schiavo has been, and I quote, in a 'persistive vegetative state' for FIFTEEN years, and her poor husband who just wants to move on has been given shit in large doses for wanting to end her suffering. And now there's this big brouhaha over reinserting her feeding tube.

This woman is not going to just to snap out of it. She ain't getting better.

Fifteen years? How is relying on a feeding tube considered 'living?' Where is the fucking 'quality of life' these assholes protest in favor of by taping the word 'LIFE' over their mouths?

Oh, this fucking pisses me off. The staunch Republicans would have us live in the fucking stone age, I swear.

--P

[identity profile] triestine.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It makes sense in the mindset that will support foetuses no matter what but not give a shit about children once they're born. Vegetate for fifteen years and the Congress will sing you lullabies; struggle with daily work and stress for fifteen years? Who cares.

[identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Pull the plug and give peace to 'two' lives, I say.

Stone age....

[identity profile] stargategirl82.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Just as long as they don't also have to live in the fucking stone age. They get to live in the 22nd century.

[identity profile] alasandalack.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"look! it twitches! sacrosanct!"

*scared* livingwill livingwill livingwill livingwill and even if i do remember to get one it'll probably count for nothing in the Bush because i'm fucking GAY and my relatives will contest it.
*freaks the fuck out and hides under the table*

just give her a whole lot of something already.

[identity profile] schmoo999.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Darling my hubby and I have been following this and can't believe how her family can think she can get any better. She has the mental capability of a 6 month old and her brain stem is liquid, there is no coming back from that.

I can't believe they would doom her to decades of being trapped in her broken mind and body like that instead of letting her move on the hereafter.

I would never do that to my own children.

Her husband had tried everything that doctors suggested for 4 years to try and bring her back.
Yes he has moved on with another woman but stay legally married to Terri so she could be let free. He went through the money her parents claim he wants through her death to care for her.

I hate it when these holier than thou people claim it is a mortal sin and God's will for her to live..no God's will was for her to die 15 years ago when she had the heart attack. Free will that we as human beings have made the advances in medical science that has kept her alive and now it is time to let God's will be done and for her to pass on.

The federal gov't is stomping all over the State of Florida's courts and that is not right. They are stomping all over a family's personal matter that has been settled over and over again by 10 different judges and I pray to those above that the federal courts uphold them.

In the end..I have learned to make my wishes clear to all of those in my family..all and to have a DNR and Living Will...I never ever want to trapped like poor Terri.

Whew. /rant

[identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
My mistake. I was led to believe otherwise. Still, it doesn't negate the fact that she needs to be 'let go.'

Any decent society would have a reasonable policy for euthanasia that would allow her to die quickly and painlessly. We give our pets death with dignity, why not people? *shakes head*

In a case such as this, I fully support euthanasia.

[identity profile] chuffing.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The staunch Republicans would have us live in the fucking stone age, I swear.

What amuses me most about this whole thing is that if she did, in fact, live in the Stone Age, she wouldn't be forced to suffer for years on end, possibly knowing she's there and can't move. She would have succumbed quickly, without any decent medical or governmental intervention ages ago.

I feel bad for the whole family, really, and I don't quite understand how the government has any say whatsoever regarding whether I live or die. If I want to swallow a box of razorblades, how is that any concern of theirs just as long as I do it in the middle of the woods, and no one else is hurt?
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[personal profile] ceilidh 2005-03-22 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I love how they want to have a 'culture of life' when they don't believe in stem cell research that, you know, might be able to help people like her. *massive eyeroll*

[identity profile] webbapettigrew.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
WORD.

Michael Schaivo has been portrayed as a piece of scum because he doesn't want to watch her suffer anymore. I don't blame the man for wanting to carry on with his life. If he didn't care, he wouldn't still be around. He VISITS her, for God's sake! I as a parent can't understand how, after 15 years that her parents think that living with a tube inside her and watching her blink and her muscles twitch is living. Good grief.
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[personal profile] ceilidh 2005-03-22 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't apologise for the soapbox, cause I'm right there on it too. I teach in an elementary school in a low income neighborhood and I see all the time the crap that people get from the 'system'.

Babies who are actually born (as opposed to fetuses, who are valued beyond all measure of reason) are being raised in filth and squallor because of restrictive (non)welfare policies.

Yep. And when those moms of those kids want to try to move up and make things better, there are roadblocks all over the place. *sigh*
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[personal profile] ceilidh 2005-03-22 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope my parents never have to see that. I'd rather my husband/daughter/parents just let me die in peace, bury me, and move on with their *lives*.
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[personal profile] xochiquetzl 2005-03-22 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Her parents are, um, well to be kind they're not coping well, and to be unkind they're no longer in touch with reality. They've gone to a lot of trouble to present her as disabled rather than vegetative, including a video on their web site which is something like 3 minutes of edited highlights out of a 4 hour tape. They claim she has the mind of a six month old.

Um, no. She has no cerebral cortex. 0_0 She no longer has enough brain left to swallow on her own.
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[personal profile] xochiquetzl 2005-03-22 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that the feeding tube thing is horrifying and barbaric-sounding, but...

No cerbral cortext. None. Just a bunch of spinal fluid where it used to be. She has enough brain to breathe, but not swallow. 0_0
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[personal profile] xochiquetzl 2005-03-22 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, in that case, I totally agree.

[identity profile] odogoddess.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Amen. Most people wouldn't allow a *dog* to live like that. They would say "put it out of it's misery, poor thing". This hanging on to the girl's living corpse is not merciful. It's desperation. And it's pathetic.

[identity profile] moonlite-tryst.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
This case angers me immensely and I hope someone can do something discretely, and soon, to end this travesty (by that I mean situation Michael Schaivo's in).
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[personal profile] xochiquetzl 2005-03-22 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Every time I think about the extent of her brain damage I start to feel a bit freaked out.

OMGSOHORRIFYING.

[identity profile] danxsunday.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know too much about the case (living on the otherside of the world) but isn't Congress intervening into judiciary matters seditious? Also let the poor woman die. Actually assist the poor thing.

No euthanasia but death penalty a plenty. I just don't get it

[identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Her parents are very desperate, and so they have taken to villifying the husband, and anyone who thinks the poor woman should be let go.

The horrible irony of this is that she got in this due to a heart attack- brought on by dieting! An imbalance of potasium, a mineral in all life giving foods, caused this horrid thig to happen, and now she has survived due to feeding tubes.

Just horrible, horrible, horrible.

[identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
They actually claim that?

Oh my god.

From I have seen from tv, that woman does not even the capacity of a baby, who brain is growing in leaps andbounds. She looks horribly just like what she is- a person who is a vegetable.

[identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
God's will for her to live..no God's will was for her to die 15 years ago when she had the heart attack.

God is not that cruel. There is no religious ethics that could support this sort of thing, family proest or no. It's horrid.

[identity profile] thistlerose.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have any of the articles in front of me, so I may be getting some of this wrong, by in 1999, when he was Governor of Texas, Bush is supposed to have approved of this bill that allows hopeless patients to be taken off life support/feeding tubes/whatever if their families can no longer pay, regardless of their families' wishes.

I probably worded that poorly. I have a bad cold, and it hurts to think. >_<

Still, hypocrisy, anyone?

And, um, if the Bush Administration is so concerned about life, how about universal healthcare?

[identity profile] biichan.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, give her a lethal injection then! Starving to death isn't any less cruel than how she's living in that hospital!

[identity profile] untiemybinds.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
And, um, if the Bush Administration is so concerned about life, how about universal healthcare?

No kidding.

But then I'm hearing about this case on my Canadian news station, and well, I think our health care system is extremely screwed up but at least people actually get help here so...

I should just be thankful I live in Canada, I guess. :\

[identity profile] thistlerose.livejournal.com 2005-03-22 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes I really wish I lived in Canada.

Apparently, to merit attention from the US Government, one must be either a fetus or a vegetable. Wonderful. >_

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