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Keeper of the Superfluous Es! ([personal profile] themostepotente) wrote2004-04-17 05:59 pm

Another plea to the artists of the fandom

Oh, now this is hysterical.

I'm sitting at the computer, sketchbook in hand, TRYING *coughs* to draw and meeting with little success.

But...

I REFUSE TO THROW IN THE TOWEL, DAMMIT!

What advice would the lovely artists of the fandom have to give to a girl that should probably quit while she's ahead?

*just LAUGHS at the cock she's drawn*

[identity profile] ani-bester.livejournal.com 2004-04-17 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
um photo references, those are usually a godsend when I'm stuck on something. If I'm really stuck, I'll find something similar to what I want and trace it until I feel comfortable drawing it on my own.

You can trace something by taping paper to the monitor, the light is usually enough to see the image through the paper.

That and sometimes I just have to put it down for a while, and when I come back I can see what the problem is. That or hold the picture upside down, or hold it up to a light and look through the paper and sometimes you can see things you couldn't see when you're looking directly at the picture.

[identity profile] lizardspots.livejournal.com 2004-04-17 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
*giggles* oooh, cock? You're braver than me. :D [livejournal.com profile] ani_bester said pretty much everything you need to know. I say you start with tracing from photo refs until you feel comfortable. That's how I started. And use a mirror! Position yourself in front of a mirror (if you're doing pictures of a whole person and not just a cock :P) and copy. *nods*
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[identity profile] randomxinsanity.livejournal.com 2004-04-17 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
To add another little tidbit, don't let yourself get stuck on one part. If it's a whole person you're drawing and you get stuck on the cock, skip to drawing something else, like the nose or the hands. Then, if the cock *or any other part* is still being bitchy, turn the page and draw lots of cocks, not super-detailed ones, just quick sketches. Then flip back to the drawing and apply wht your hand has figured out.

And when looking for photo references, don't necessarily just focus on actual photos. Look at how other people draw cocks. I find that more helpful if I'm having trouble figuring out how to draw something. I think it's because a photo is a 2D representation of something 3D, and drawing always were 2D.

[identity profile] lyntek.livejournal.com 2004-04-17 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Erm...I'm going to be a baddie here and say "no" to tracing over anything ^_^;; Tracing, IMHO, very rarely teaches a person anything and makes him or her dependent on other people's photographs or artwork. Study anatomy, I would even suggest taking an entire course just for that, though you'd get very far from independent study ^_^

I highly recommend getting Andrew Loomis's Figure Drawing: For All It's Worth. He's practically a staple for professionals in the field of visual arts. It's out of print, but you can download the whole thing over at http://www.saveloomis.org or http://www.fineart.sk

As previously mentioned, learning _how_ other artists draw things can both help in terms and technique and inspire you to continue drawing ^___^

And practice, practice, practice! ^____^ If you're frustrated while drawing something, you might want to not look at your drawing for a day (though I'd recommend a week if you're just starting, that's how long it took me before). When you look at it again after a long period of time, the mistakes will practically jump out at you and you'll find it easier to work on it. The longer you work on a piece, the harder it is to distinguish errors, so letting the artwork 'jell' in your head for a while is often safe practice.

Erm...hope this helps :]

This may be more than you wanted...

[identity profile] thistlefinch.livejournal.com 2004-04-17 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Hrm, a whole lot of "what they said" coming your way:

1. Photo references are good. You can find pose books at some art stores, these are (from what I've seen) generally Japanese Manga reference books showing people doing anything and everything. 'Cept sex, those jerks. Getting someone you know and trusts you (if there's nakedness involved) to pose for you is good too.

2. Start with a rough sketch, work lightly with pencil. Go back over the lines you want to keep, erasing the ones you don't.

3. If you're really serious, you might want to try a life drawing class at your local community college. Generally not too expensive, and tons of fun. Plus? Nudity.

4. Lots of practice, and lots of looking at other people's work. Not just other fanart, either. Go to the library and research interesting artists, and develop your style from there. Keep an actual sketchbook, not just pieces of paper lying around so your work doesn't get screwed up (or looked at by unwanted people).

5. If you work with pencils, buy a set of good drawing pencils. They don't generally cost more than 8 bucks a set, and they're completely worth it. I reccomend the Derwent brand. Or buy a small range of whatever medium you want to work with.

6. Keep at it. Most people think they suck when they start out, and quit just as they're beginning to make progress (or really *are* doing well). Your I REFUSE TO THROW IN THE TOWEL, DAMMIT! is a *very* good attitude to have.

Damn, I feel really pretentious. Hope it helps, anyways.

[identity profile] lunulet.livejournal.com 2004-04-17 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Copy comic books. :>


(I'm serious!)

Also, post your drawings to [livejournal.com profile] artbeta. Glock, Sherant, Fiendling, and LOTS of other lovelies are wonderful at giving advice at all levels.

[identity profile] triestine.livejournal.com 2004-04-18 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Like the others said - use photos. I knew my gay porn folder would come in useful eventually... *giggle*

Completely irrelevant ;)

[identity profile] pinkwafer.livejournal.com 2004-04-18 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
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