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He's here. He's queer. He's here to do a cheer. A lil' poll on the matter of Dumbly's preference for le beau sex.

Alas, I have no DD icons :P

[Poll #1076455]

Have fun all!

--P
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Date: 2007-10-24 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
My thoughts on this got so big they turned into a post. (http://amanuensis1.livejournal.com/178219.html) ^_^

Date: 2007-10-25 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
I already left my 2 cents, babe! *G*

Date: 2007-10-24 06:33 pm (UTC)
jamoche: Draco Malfoy by lukadia (awesome artist) (draco)
From: [personal profile] jamoche
Will you slash Dumbly now?

You left out "slashed those two since the carpet book". Really, the subtext was practically text.

Date: 2007-10-25 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
True, I did leave that out. Totally unintentional!

Date: 2007-10-24 08:44 pm (UTC)
a_belladonna: (Such a whore)
From: [personal profile] a_belladonna
"Will you slash Dumbly now?"

...and then there were those who slashed him before he was outed by JKR. ;)

Date: 2007-10-25 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
True. It took me awhile to appreciate Snapeldore, though. But it was well before she outed him.

Date: 2007-10-24 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkdormouse.livejournal.com
Others:

Dean and Seamus
Tonks
Angelina Johnson
Prof Sprout
Prof Hooch
Prof Grubbly PLank
Luna Lovegood

Need I go on?

Date: 2007-10-26 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
Stay tuned for a similar poll regarding the ladies of HP.

Date: 2007-10-26 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkdormouse.livejournal.com
Thanks. I shall do.

Date: 2007-10-24 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptyx.livejournal.com
Another vote for "And So What"?

Date: 2007-10-26 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
Can you elaborate on this more, please? That slashers don't care really makes me curious as to why.

Date: 2007-10-29 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptyx.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, my micro has broken and I don't have much online time, but I posted about the subject twice the day JKR "outed" Dumbledore. I don't think this "outing" matters at all, because it's not in the books, and it's not "positive" either, because Dumbledore's love was "negative" (I'm using these terms, "positive" and "negative", according to JKR's values, not mine). There are many good posts and articles on the subject, but I have no time to search for the links.

Here's an article saying that it doesn't matter, because it's not in the books:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-dumbledore_thinkoct28,0,5083509.story

Date: 2007-10-25 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] countouttheday.livejournal.com
I guess if I had to choose another character for her to out, it would have been.... no, crap, it still would have been Dumbledore.

Manipulative!Gay!Dumbledore basically redeems everything I did not like about the books, it is so awesome. It may even lead to peace in the middle east. Okay, well maybe not.

*cough*ialreadyshippeddumbledore/voldemort*cough*

Date: 2007-10-26 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
{{{YOU}}}

Yeah, I know, love. You have been a rarepair shipper for as long as I can remember, and I love you for it :-)

Date: 2007-10-25 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ija-ijewna.livejournal.com
All right, I'm officially blind. ;-> In your last question I chose Snape and Black. Yes, together. Yes, in this way. And only then I noticed your layout, and whose exactly this LJ is...
Well, may be blind, but stumbled in the right direction. ;-p

As for JKR's revelations - my first reaction was squeaky madness with "I was right! I was right all along!" thrown inbetween. Then a thought came that some characters have got even more hints, yet Rowling haven't outed them, which means that... And the second bout of squeeing started. Well, then I sobered a bit. Couldn't she give us this in plain text if she wanted to be sooo tolerant? Yest still, her outing poor Dumbledore looks like a placet for all HP slashers. Who are we to refuse the author? ;-)

Date: 2007-10-26 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
All right, I'm officially blind. ;-> In your last question I chose Snape and Black. Yes, together. Yes, in this way. And only then I noticed your layout, and whose exactly this LJ is...

This just put a big ol' fuckin' grin on my face. *G*

Date: 2007-10-25 10:02 am (UTC)
ext_14568: Lisa just seems like a perfectly nice, educated, middle class woman...who writes homoerotic fanfiction about wizards (HP Flighty Temptress)
From: [identity profile] midnitemaraud-r.livejournal.com
Of course this all happens when I'm on a short hiatus for apartment renovations and I miss all the good crack. :-P

When I heard, I knew fandom was going to go batshit and divide itself as it always does. JKR can't win no matter what she does, and I'm frankly quite stunned by a lot of the negative comments I've seen. I mean, sure, I expected it from the anti-slash/homophobic crowd, but the whining from the slashers? The claims that it was a publicity stunt kill me, because, you know, she needs the publicity like she needs a fucking hole in her head. But the "why couldn't it have been X instead because eww, Dumbledore is old" bitching in particular grates on me to no end. I had to stop myself from writing a scathing reply to people on the SB/RL mailing list. And where the hell did she say that DD was the ONLY gay character/wizard?

Fandom makes my brain bleed. I guarantee that if she had been asked about Draco and said that he was gay or bi, suddenly all the "interviews aren't canon" people would be miraculously shouting "IT'S CANON!"

The other thing that kills me is this pervading attitude that now that she's finished writing her seven books, JKR must abdicate all claims to the world and characters SHE created. We're such a bunch of hypocrites. For all the people who complain about that, let's see them give up their "rights" to their fanfic, their fanart, their RP characters and games.

As for your poll, I was ecstatic when I heard, and to be honest, there was more than subtext in DH about it to begin with - she did everything except type the word "gay" in there, and for people who thrive on subtext... Anyway, I chose Remus, but I wouldn't want her to have said he was gay, but rather that he was bisexual. Even despite my shippy R/S tendencies, bisexuality totally suits the way she wrote him.

Btw, Hi! *HUGS* Fun poll! I need more coffee. :-P

Date: 2007-10-26 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
This comment? Pretty much wins at EVERYTHING. Do I have your permission to use this in a future post, dear?

Date: 2007-10-26 08:38 pm (UTC)
ext_14568: Lisa just seems like a perfectly nice, educated, middle class woman...who writes homoerotic fanfiction about wizards (HP Flighty Temptress)
From: [identity profile] midnitemaraud-r.livejournal.com
Sure, why not. :-P

Date: 2007-10-26 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark356.livejournal.com
I was super-exited to hear it too (or rather, I just found out today, and thought, "Wow, I've been out of the loop for a while!"). But I was also a little disappointed. When reading DH, I could see what sort of evidence Dumbledore/Grindelwald shippers would use, of course, but I didn't really see it myself. So it feels a bit strange to me for it to be the one that's validated by her.

Date: 2007-10-26 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
Just today? Aww, you are out of the loop! Rather, were. *G*

Date: 2007-11-01 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com
Well, I still ship Dumbledore/McGonagall. I see him as bisexual. He loved Grindewald, but then he got over him and fell in love with Minerva. Honestly, I'd rather he be gay for Doge. It would make more sense.

As for who I wished she'd outed, I voted Sirius. I'm still of the belief that Sirius was totally gay for James. Her outing Lucius would have been awesome, but I think Sirius is the only one that I ever read as gay in canon.
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